Mobile Industry Review - Latest Comments in Hutchison’s INQ readying challenge to Nokia, Moto & Apple

Re: Hutchison’s INQ readying challenge to Nokia, Moto & Apple

South77 — Wed, 22 Oct 2008 08:48:37 -0000

Very fair point. Getting *good* technology into people's hands at the right price will create a lot of oportunity.

I personally would like a device with HSPA , a very good browser experience, and largish screen. And that would do me. If someone can make and sell that for cheap, i'm in.

Re: Hutchison’s INQ readying challenge to Nokia, Moto & Apple

Mike42 — Wed, 22 Oct 2008 08:39:45 -0000

As opposed to making a handset full of junk software/apps, and selling it for $500 perhaps?

Apple could sell their devices for less and still make good margins, but they aren't interested in that fight. They make enough money off the cachet and nice experience their designers create. If you can charge a premium you should. But if your market is price-sensitive you need to meet it.

The S2 shows that you can make a handset that is quality in both build and UI, for £69.99 unsubsidised.

Evian water is the same as tap water. Just because tap water is cheap doesn't make it bad, and just because tap water in other countries might be the same cheap price but taste awful, doesn't meen the UK water is inherently inferior.

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Re: Hutchison’s INQ readying challenge to Nokia, Moto & Apple

South77 — Wed, 22 Oct 2008 07:50:52 -0000

Relative to this discussion I saw this comment from Steve Jobs on cheapo products yesterday.

"What we want to do is deliver an increasing level of value for customers," he said. "We don't know how to make a $500 computer that's not a piece of junk, and our DNA won't let us do that."

http://www.informationweek.com/news/hardware/ma...

Re: Hutchison’s INQ readying challenge to Nokia, Moto & Apple

South77 — Fri, 17 Oct 2008 11:33:53 -0000

I am just sceptical that INQ will do a better job of making phones than phone manufacturers – especially by focusing on cheapo models. We shall see. Many have tried.

Re: Hutchison’s INQ readying challenge to Nokia, Moto & Apple

South77 — Fri, 17 Oct 2008 11:12:10 -0000

The T3 article isn't really a review... just a bit copy whipped up fast.

Seen any geniune reviews?

The comments here echo issues I’ve heard from several regular users of the first-gen phone. http://www.trustedreviews.com/mobile-phones/rev...

Re: Hutchison’s INQ readying challenge to Nokia, Moto & Apple

South77 — Fri, 17 Oct 2008 10:59:18 -0000

Sorry the orignal skypephone. My point is the users like the service, but find the handset underwhelming. Let's see how the new INq ones work out, it could be they're fantastic.

Re: Hutchison’s INQ readying challenge to Nokia, Moto & Apple

danlane — Fri, 17 Oct 2008 10:56:57 -0000

This is exceptionally high praise from a competitor... should I be expecting to see Truphone running on an INQ handset in the near future?

Re: Hutchison’s INQ readying challenge to Nokia, Moto & Apple

Mike42 — Fri, 17 Oct 2008 10:37:10 -0000

If it's not been released yet, who thinks it's "junky"? Are you talking about the S2 (on which T3 et al would disagree with you)?

Or the handset above, which AFAIK is not yet even with journalists?

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Re: Hutchison’s INQ readying challenge to Nokia, Moto & Apple

Mike42 — Fri, 17 Oct 2008 10:33:14 -0000

Nah, FB is an app. Not a widget.

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Re: Hutchison’s INQ readying challenge to Nokia, Moto & Apple

South77 — Fri, 17 Oct 2008 07:55:20 -0000

Find soneone who uses it everyday as their main phone (easier said than done) and then ask what they think of it, and how they rate battery life.... I doubt very much they'll rave about the biz model innovation.

Generallly, people like having skype for free, but think the device is junky.

Re: Hutchison’s INQ readying challenge to Nokia, Moto & Apple

jamesbody — Fri, 17 Oct 2008 05:49:44 -0000

'..a piece of junk?'

I would disagree strongly with you there - I would rate the Skypephone (1st Generation) as being the most innovative handset of 2007! For the price, H3G managed to pack in a huge amount of functionality. Whilst it does not compare directly with say a Nokia N95-8GB, just remeber that you can buy A DOZEN SkypePhone S1s for the price of ONE N95-8GB!

Re: Hutchison’s INQ readying challenge to Nokia, Moto & Apple

Nicolai Wadstrom — Tue, 14 Oct 2008 12:48:59 -0000

Couldn't agree more, I stopped using my 3G Nokia and started using a 2G iPhone, because not of features and touch-screens (although they are nice!), but for the simple reason, it's easy to be connected, and it seamlessly roams between wifi and the GSM network.

Re: Hutchison’s INQ readying challenge to Nokia, Moto & Apple

Jim — Sun, 12 Oct 2008 12:43:58 -0000

The Facebook integration is through support of Widgets, there is an option for 2 active widgets on the home screen at a time including RSS feeds, weather, yahoo search or a world clock. I assume, perhaps wrongly that this means they are downloadable to the handset and therefore very user friendly indeed. See Engadget for the photos from which I have made this deduction.

Re: Hutchison’s INQ readying challenge to Nokia, Moto & Apple

MartinSFP — Fri, 10 Oct 2008 13:22:44 -0000

It doesn't necessarily but even if it is upgradable it'd need to be easy to do if your average normob is going to bother. My girlfriend's Samsung has a messed up bluetooth profile but she's not bothered about fixing it because it's such a hassle to upgrade.

I just think a cheap phone is more about instant gratification than long-term investment.

Re: Hutchison’s INQ readying challenge to Nokia, Moto & Apple

Mike42 — Fri, 10 Oct 2008 13:15:06 -0000

Why does 'low cost' necessarily correlate with 'not upgradeable'?

Re: Hutchison’s INQ readying challenge to Nokia, Moto & Apple

MartinSFP — Fri, 10 Oct 2008 09:11:18 -0000

My worry with these is that once Facebook falls out of favour you're left with a phone that's closely integrated with an outdated social network. I doubt that at such a cheap price they'd be that upgradable.

Still, as we've seen in recent months, 'Facebook on your mobile' is a strong selling point.

Re: Hutchison’s INQ readying challenge to Nokia, Moto & Apple

South77 — Fri, 10 Oct 2008 08:15:58 -0000

Fair enuff. But that's a not a genuine hands-on review written by some one who's used the device everyday for a few weeks -- it's a blogger knocking out a quick bit of text after having a poke at it for 20 minutes. I don't think it really the serves the reader.

Having said that, i''l reserve judgement till i've actually spent a bit of time with the S2.

Re: Hutchison’s INQ readying challenge to Nokia, Moto & Apple

bensmith — Fri, 10 Oct 2008 07:18:21 -0000

It is a fair comment, but I'm encouraged that improving the uisability / internet connectivity is a clear stated objective.

Could Three be any more brilliant at the moment (apart from the CS)?

Re: Hutchison’s INQ readying challenge to Nokia, Moto & Apple

bensmith — Fri, 10 Oct 2008 07:13:04 -0000

The first Skypephone was a massive gamble. It turned out well and the 2nd one has a much greater investment in the s/w.

Re: Hutchison’s INQ readying challenge to Nokia, Moto & Apple

Mike42 — Fri, 10 Oct 2008 07:08:22 -0000

http://www.t3.com/telecom/mobile-phones/3-skype...

Re: Hutchison’s INQ readying challenge to Nokia, Moto & Apple

HeavyLight — Fri, 10 Oct 2008 06:54:41 -0000

A one word tip for Frank Meehan: ANDROID!

Without it, I confidently predict the INQ line will fail dismally.

Re: Hutchison’s INQ readying challenge to Nokia, Moto & Apple

South77 — Fri, 10 Oct 2008 06:38:43 -0000

Ha! Haven't used that extensively yet. You could have a point.

it's legitmate to ask though, will these phones actually be any good, as well as cheap? That does matter.

SkypePhone has been good for driving profit margin on PAYG -- so it was a success from that p.o.v.

Re: Hutchison’s INQ readying challenge to Nokia, Moto & Apple

smstextnews — Fri, 10 Oct 2008 06:06:10 -0000

And the second Skypephone?

Re: Hutchison’s INQ readying challenge to Nokia, Moto & Apple

South77 — Fri, 10 Oct 2008 05:24:21 -0000

Sorry to be negative. The first skypephone was a piece of junk. Why will these be any better?

Cheap is good, but you get what you pay for. More or less.