Mobile Industry Review - Latest Comments in 3UK bans customers wearing hoodies; Our 30-point guide for 3

Re: 3UK bans customers wearing hoodies; Our 30-point guide for 3

MaManfie — Tue, 22 Jul 2008 15:11:20 -0000

Yes, but even if you don't have the hoodie up to get told to get out of a shop.

Samantha.

Re: 3UK bans customers wearing hoodies; Our 30-point guide for 3

John — Mon, 21 Jul 2008 07:21:23 -0000

Those plastic mock-ups are useful. There's a supplementary theft you need them for which I'm not sure I should post on the internet. Ewan, you know where to find me if you want to know.

Re: 3UK bans customers wearing hoodies; Our 30-point guide for 3

whatleydude — Mon, 21 Jul 2008 06:20:55 -0000

Agreed.

More professionalism in the signage too.

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Ronald Cummings-John — Sun, 20 Jul 2008 20:39:34 -0000

Not being silly here but hoddy bans came in about 2 years ago!!!! (A very sad day )

I think you should go back in a month and see if they have a sign for "Only 2 school children at a time"

Re: 3UK bans customers wearing hoodies; Our 30-point guide for 3

msjen — Sun, 20 Jul 2008 19:54:05 -0000

I live in Southern California. Due to a nice climate, lots of folks toddle around in very little clothing, esp. near the beach. It is common for shops & restaurants to have signs that say "No Shirt, No Shoes, No Service".

Is this discrimination against beach go-ers or surfers or beach bums or... or... or... No it is simply the rules they set for their space.

My brother and his girlfriend tried to go to a nice restaurant last night and were turned away at the door because he was wearing shorts and flipflops. Was he mad? No, he was laughing at himself for being so SoCal laid back in his attire.

If 3 has a problem with identifying shoplifters due to obscured features, then they have the right to post a sign at their door asking folks to take off hats & hoods & veils & other head/face attire. Should they word their sign in a way that is more readable, less stick up the butt and possibly a bit funnier? Yes.

So, maybe what we should do is think of some good funny copy for them.

Re: 3UK bans customers wearing hoodies; Our 30-point guide for 3

mj — Sun, 20 Jul 2008 13:31:16 -0000

They're not asking for an actual item of clothing to be removed, just for the hood to be removed (ie, pulled back from covering the face).

Reasonable if you ask me.

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smstextnews — Sun, 20 Jul 2008 09:30:06 -0000

I used to be before my other half declared she wasn't a fan ;)

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Anthony — Sun, 20 Jul 2008 07:47:21 -0000

I'm in full agreement with 3 over the hoodies and I wear one fairly regularly! I'm guessing 3 have no problem with them down? Strangely enough I will not wear one up if it's raining unless it's torrential rain. I don't want to look like a hooligan and scare old ladies.

Nike Shox, are you a fan of them too, Ewan?

Re: 3UK bans customers wearing hoodies; Our 30-point guide for 3

RaxLakhani — Sun, 20 Jul 2008 07:38:26 -0000

It's more the catalogue of extreme bad service that 3 have offered me since buying the handset. Firstly, they sold me the N95 8G with a free Slinbox knowing that it doesn't work on this phone. Secondly, they pushed the x-series Gold package on me - again, knowing that Slinbox was not available on this handset.

However, what really gets my goat is the fact that it has taken two months of chasing and I still haven't had the problem resolved. An apology from the Store Manager would have been nice - but every time I call him, he's been really unprofessional (passing the buck) and fairly patronising. He tells me that a mate of his managed to get hold of a copy that is working and that he is sending me a link which will get things set up for me. This was five weeks ago. I'm chasing him every few days - something I don't expect to have to do.

Instead of fobbing me off, accept that they messed up. Offer me some money off my account to apologise or tell me when it will be resolved. Don't make me chase. It's put me right off 3. I've probably spent about half a day's worth of calls trying to sort this out - and I'm nowhere near getting an answer.

And what's the deal with a Store Manager for 3 using T-Mobile as their personal network provider? If you're giving out your mobile number to customers, make sure it's a 3 phone! Seriously!

The non-compatibility issue with Slingbox on the 8GB is one that many people have been experiencing. Radio silence from 3 on when this will be resolved. The 30 day trial from Slingbox is available from their website but has major glitches when operating on the N95 8GB and is only free for a month. If I'm paying for a package that includes Unlimited Slingbox Access (x-series Gold) then surely 3 should sort this out or stop offering it as a package.

I wonder how many other x-series Gold packages they have mis-sold on the promise of the Slingbox operability?

Grrrr.....

Anyone else had this experience?

Re: 3UK bans customers wearing hoodies; Our 30-point guide for 3

MaManfie — Sun, 20 Jul 2008 07:15:38 -0000

I hate this discrimination against young people, which has only come about because the Media portray a whole age group under one collective stereotype; which of course... We all must conform to.

This is what I call pathetic. Fair enough if you kick people out for loitering, being rude, not doing anything, harrassing or anything of the sort; but to tell people based on an item of clothing that they are not to enter shop is ridiculous.

I say this, with experience of it happening to me. I'm no ASBO Child, I've never been in trouble with the Police, and I'm not an anti-social person; yet, because I want to stay warm, I'm stopped going into shops? No way! This if anything is going to make me enter such shops, and make a point.

If, this discrimination was imposed upon religious garments there would be an uproar; "you can't do that, it's racism" "we have to maintain racial equality, you can't stop people from wearing what they like", and I'm pretty sure it would get taken to court and such too.
But because the "youth" of today don't have a voice within society, and because Political Correctness extends only as far as our Governments want it too, it won't get delt with.

Nice list by the way.

Samantha.

Re: 3UK bans customers wearing hoodies; Our 30-point guide for 3

meraj — Sun, 20 Jul 2008 06:51:31 -0000

You thought of all those 30 points today? It's Sunday you know?...
lol...

Re: 3UK bans customers wearing hoodies; Our 30-point guide for 3

bensmith — Sun, 20 Jul 2008 05:54:07 -0000

The original N95 works fine with Slingbox... surprised the 8GB doesn't. What was the problem?

Re: 3UK bans customers wearing hoodies; Our 30-point guide for 3

smstextnews — Sun, 20 Jul 2008 05:51:05 -0000

You didn't have a good experience with the Slingbox then? ;-)

Re: 3UK bans customers wearing hoodies; Our 30-point guide for 3

RaxLakhani — Sun, 20 Jul 2008 04:44:55 -0000

"and in return, we promise that we will not mis-sell you a Nokia N95 8GB on the pretence that it is compatible with Slingbox. We will not throw in a free Slingbox machine to sweeten the deal (yes, it is there on the website if you look hard enough), only for you to find out that it doesn't work on the handset that we've just sold you. We will endeavour to flog you the x-series gold package which is five pounds more expensive than the x-series silver because it specifically enables you to access your Slingbox media from the N95 8GB (which again, does not work with 3)....

"we also promise that when you complain to our Store Manager, Customer Services and Technical Support, we will NOT pass the buck and promise you a call back/money off your next bill and fail to deliver on our word. We will try our best to resolve issues in the speediest manner possible and not under ANY CIRCUMSTANCES fob you off with the asssurance that "only last week a customer came in and showed us the Slingbox working on their handset - they must have used bittorrent to find a cracked version". We guarantee that when our Store Manager hands out his personal phone number for you to chase him up on a daily basis that he will not have his voicemail reveal that he is a T-mobile customer because even he cannot stomach the unbearable 3 service which puts the customer's needs last."

"So, by removing your hoodie, you will look a lot less intimidating to our staff that and allow them to look you directly in the eye when they sell you services and packages that will ABSOLUTELY, 100% work on your handset. Eye contact is essential for our staff when getting you tosign up to a non-returns disclaimer which states that once you start a contract, you are able to stop it even if we admit that we got our facts wrong when selling you the phone in the first place."

"Finally, a message to our aging customers who conceal their thinning hairline with a hood... We train our staff to treat new customers in the same way that your folicles are gradually receding on a daily basis... HAIR TODAY, GONE TOMORROW. (aka Sign 'em up am let an Indian call centre deal with the fallout)"

Thank you for your co-operation

Have a nice day

Management of the 3 Store, Kingston-upon-Thames, Surrey (or at least a customer's view of what we would say)

Re: 3UK bans customers wearing hoodies; Our 30-point guide for 3

mj — Sun, 20 Jul 2008 04:24:52 -0000

It's no different to bikers being asked to remove their helmets going into a bank.

Working retail with high price items is hazardous these days.